tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post1212910023611408296..comments2023-11-15T01:22:00.605-05:00Comments on The Universal Cynic: Fun with mathThe Universal Cynichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-42378179662326412972010-05-06T13:59:27.383-04:002010-05-06T13:59:27.383-04:00People are not claiming different. However, when ...People are not claiming different. However, when it comes to playoff success/failure, Toronto is always going to take centre stage, and teams like Vancouver and even Ottawa are often discussed by the national media before Montreal is mentioned.The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-62695827482653472242010-05-06T13:30:23.708-04:002010-05-06T13:30:23.708-04:00Is there national media claiming that Montreal doe...Is there national media claiming that Montreal does have a recent history of post-season stamina?<br /><br />Montreal has not been glorious in the playoffs since 1993, but I didn't think that was a secret. Are people claiming different?<br /><br />Montreal has had some brutally lean years since 1993 and scant playoff success. I am surprised that comes as a surprise to anyone.Pink Frostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03425990163654903441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-76468350710113325072010-05-06T12:42:27.918-04:002010-05-06T12:42:27.918-04:00On a subjective note, my wife was a huge Nordiques...On a subjective note, my wife was a huge Nordiques fan. When they moved to Colorado, they were dead to her. I would tend to agree with the notion that when a team moves, they essentially become a new franchise.<br /><br />I am one of those people who believes that playoff success, or lack thereof, is somewhat random. A bounce here, an injury there, an out of this world goaltending performance Dennis Prousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01117649570711228161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-83061999073643108472010-05-06T03:51:00.725-04:002010-05-06T03:51:00.725-04:00And I think you're creating an argument where ...And I think you're creating an argument where there is none. Phoenix is Phoenix. It is not Phoenix/Winnipeg, and doesn't exist as such, just as Dallas isn't Dallas/old Minnesota and Colorado isn't Colorado/Quebec. The stats were collected as they exist IN THEIR CURRENT NHL CITIES. If you wish to go back through the league history and gather all the information on playoff The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-43944409021604256132010-05-06T01:55:34.787-04:002010-05-06T01:55:34.787-04:00"That's fine if we're discussing a te..."That's fine if we're discussing a team movement/expansion story. But that's not what this is."<br /><br />No, this is a story about teams not making the conference finals since 1994. You claimed Phoenix had extenuating circumstances that it didn't have. The Winnipeg/Phoenix franchise has existed since 1972 and hasn't won a playoff series since 1987. I don't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-36775964195739675412010-05-06T00:48:14.401-04:002010-05-06T00:48:14.401-04:00That's fine if we're discussing a team mov...That's fine if we're discussing a team movement/expansion story. But that's not what this is. In this case, it's semantics. And the NHL still "awards" teams, regardless of whether they've previously existed elsewhere. It's their terminology -- not mine.The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-567262387557088592010-05-05T23:51:16.609-04:002010-05-05T23:51:16.609-04:00Phoenix Coyotes were never awarded a team, they re...Phoenix Coyotes were never awarded a team, they relocated from Winnipeg. Definetly not the same as the Preds or Bluejackets they were expansion teams.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-89774738775901718822010-05-05T23:24:33.534-04:002010-05-05T23:24:33.534-04:00D'oh! That's what I meant. Thanks for th...D'oh! That's what I meant. Thanks for the catch. It's been fixed.The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-40641856972378969062010-05-05T22:11:50.942-04:002010-05-05T22:11:50.942-04:00Since 1982, Montreal has made the Conference Final...Since 1982, Montreal has made the Conference Final in 1984, 1986, 1987, 1989 and 1993. However, they have only made the Stanley Cup Final three times (1986, 1989, 1993) since 1982.Elinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-42298488889624716792010-05-05T20:29:58.086-04:002010-05-05T20:29:58.086-04:00The conference quarterfinals are the first round. ...The conference quarterfinals are the first round. Vancouver has made it into the playoffs nine times since 1994, including this season.The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-78998791797968672262010-05-05T18:51:26.342-04:002010-05-05T18:51:26.342-04:00Vancouver hasn't made it to the conference qua...Vancouver hasn't made it to the conference quarterfinals since 1994.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-25601454354171751482010-05-05T18:26:37.111-04:002010-05-05T18:26:37.111-04:00barring a total collapse, boston can be scratched ...barring a total collapse, boston can be scratched from that list soon :)rouvennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-62025799422344621262010-05-05T17:26:47.551-04:002010-05-05T17:26:47.551-04:00Minnesota made it to the Western conference finals...Minnesota made it to the Western conference finals in 2003. They were swept by Anaheim in 4 games.The Universal Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03205794337265829420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21327159.post-16371568862464108742010-05-05T16:35:22.116-04:002010-05-05T16:35:22.116-04:00What about the Wild?What about the Wild?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com